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  Today's WT Study: "Return to Jehovah" - Lots of Elephants in the Room

  by Room 215 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  today's article prods active jws to participate in the effort to reactivate us backsliders.. unfortunately, it fails to prepare the participants to adequately address the real reasons so many have left and want nothing frtherethan to be left alone: the un and child abuse scandals, prophetic failures; dumbed-down, increasingly specious and simplistic verbiage in literature and talks, the cult of personality and unwarranted veneration of those 8 singularly unremarkable members of the gb, etc., etc..

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  joey jojo

  A persons mind, once expanded, cannot return to its original dimensions.
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  Why Does It Seem That Black People Are Always Being Shot By The Police?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there is either a conspiracy against blacks in this country and police are out to get them or it’s that they are getting caught breaking the law and often times refuse to obey police authority.

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  joey jojo

  Maybe someone can refresh my memory.

  Which year was that riot that occurred because a white, drug affected ex con was killed by police?

  
  
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  Governing Body members will no longer be with us on earth during ''the great tribulation''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower—study edition | october 2019. .

  study article 41. stay faithful through the “great tribulation”.

  14 during the great tribulation, a change will take place regarding the brothers who take the lead on earth.

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  joey jojo

  Is it early pre-conditioning for the time in the future, when the org has no one that can officially call themselves anointed?

  Is it a 2 way bet that allows the org to continue, while being led by 'capable brothers' while the world continues on long after armageddon should have taken place?
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  Noah's Ark : A structure that could never have been built in Noah's day

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the ark encounter located in kentucky (opened in 2016) is a large representation of noah's ark based on the genesis flood narrative contained in the bible.

  it is 510 feet (155 m) long, 85 feet (26 m) wide, and 51 feet (16 m) high.. .

  genesis 6: 14 so make yourself an ark of cypress[c] wood; make rooms in it and coat it with pitch inside and out.

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  joey jojo

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_longest_wooden_ships

  Most of the largest modern wooden ships had metal bracing - they still weren't seaworthy and they are all smaller than the alleged size of Noahs Ark.
  
  
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  Was It Designed? (My head hurts)

  by Cadellin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know i shouldn't--i tell myself this over and over--but i can't help peeking at these silly articles.

  and then i see this and my head really starts hurting: so the gannet, if you don't know (and why would you?

  ) is a seabird that feeds on fish.

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  joey jojo

  The quotes from the WT about members of the cat family eating coconuts are ridiculous because, as obligate carnivores, they will die painful deaths if they do not eat meat.
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  Tonight's Meeting

  by Studyover in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  during tonight's meeting the brother seemed to read out something along the lines of "you may be helping a poor sister who you think may be struggling, but in turn that sister may be getting financial assistance from the government.

  it is always best to stick to jehovah's arrangement in these matters so that help can get to those who most need it, including the worldwide work".

  i think it may have been an article about social media platforms initially and how they should be avoided and then this was mentioned.

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  Only once while I was active did I see a blatant example of a newly interested person try to fleece the congregation for charity. Apparently this guy would work his way around the local churches, getting whatever he could out of them.

  Contrast that with an older, long term member of the congregation that may need genuine help and it seems here that this elder is saying, 'let Satan's organisation support our elderly, just keep sending your coin to headquarters'.
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  Bleecker Street — I saw a shadow touch a shadow’s hand (New York)

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  will i ever make it to new york?

  i feel if i ever did make it to new york i would never want to leave again.

  what do i know about new york?

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  joey jojo

  Somehow, without really meaning to, I've been to NY 3 times. When Aussies travel, we often make it a 5 or 6 week event, so we can make the most of the long haul flights we have take to get overseas. A couple of these holidays have included NYC.

  We walked day after day around the city, took the subway, saw all the sights, the lower east side, Brooklyn, Central Park, museums etc.

  Maybe its just me, but NYC didn't really do it for me and I still don't know why. I feel like maybe I missed something? Its not that I didnt enjoy it, I did, but not as much as I thought I would. Its got character- maybe it would be cool to live there, instead of seeing it through the eyes of a tourist.
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  Awake! March 22, 1993

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  does anyone happen to have a copy of the awake for march 22, 1993. .

  i'm especially interested in pages 3 and 4 of an article about false teachers..

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  joey jojo

  On page 4 of this issue, the org makes this statement to try to excuse themselves of multiple failures of prophecy:

  'Jehovah's Witnesses, in their eagerness for Jesus' second coming, have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect. Because of this, some have called them false prophets. Never in these instances, however, did they presume to originate predictions 'in the name of Jehovah.' Never did they say, `These are the words of Jehovah.'

  And yet, the blurb directly underneath it says this:

  'Most important, this magazine builds confidence in the Creators promise of a peaceful and secure new world before the generation that saw the events of 1914 passes away. '

  If this isn't putting words in the mouth of God, and making false promises in his name, then what is?
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  How about this from a recent wt.

  by New day in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=jwlshare&wtlocale=e&prefer=lang&docid=2020600.

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  joey jojo

  Lots of ellipses in that quote.
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  Post your experiance with JWs who did not save for retirement and had to work or live off off SS till death

  by wolverines in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  but one i remember was a full on dyed in the wool believer how was a farmer.

  around 1975 he sold his farm moved his family to a very rural place and waited for the end to come.

  he ended up working for his brother in law hanging drywall.

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  joey jojo

  Jws like to jump between the old and new testaments, to cherry pick whatever thought they are trying to justify at that moment. Proverbs 13:22 is a scripture I haven't heard quoted much though. It explicitly defines a good person as someone that leaves wealth to their grandchildren.

  This one, short scripture actually contains a lot of wisdom if followed. It encourages someone to think long term about other people's benefit and promotes a sense of responsibility towards money and wealth.

  Contrast this with the ex missionary / pioneer elder I knew that passed away recently in his 90s. When I gave my condolences, his daughter told me, almost proudly, that her father had nothing and died poor. It wasn't the time or place to tell her that he died pooe because he expected the end to be here decades ago and he didn't save to help his children, but I was thinking it.